There's no better way to start the day than to go out to move some snow and let the car warm up and find this.... What the picture doesn't show, is the tachometer bouncing all over the place. I know that we have at least have 2 cylinders misfiring and the van needs a tuneup. Hopefully, we can figure something out with the car in the near future. This site is managed almost exclusively from my Samsung Galaxy Note 3. Please forgive any typos as auto-correct HATES me. ;-) Follow @Lost_and_Tired "Like" me on Facebook Visit the My Autism Help Forums To reach me via email, please Contact Me